Date: Sun, 12 Nov 1995 08:53:31 -0500 From: (the person formerly known as chip) Newsgroups: csh.flame Subject: There is no joy in brick city... ( a nice, calm .flame) (WARNING: this post is rated *R* for Ruthlesseness. This post is restricted to mature readers age 17 and up. Zippy, Kace, Kurt, and Joy may wish to SKIP this post as it contains material of a sensitive nature. This is the *final* regular installment of chip's ..flamewar campaign on joy@csh.rit.edu) Nothing's more fun than receiving hate mail from the ones you love to .flame. On Fri, 10 Nov 1995, Joy E. Speelman wrote: > > To: (chip) > > > I am hereby requesting you to please stop posting regarding me to newsgroups > > such as csh.noise, csh.flame, etc. I will not stand by and tolerate harrassment > > of this nature. Any repeated attempts will be reported to the Computer Science > > House Executive Board, to Computer Science House's Adavanced Resaerch Group, > > to Information Systems and Computing, and to Campus Saftey. > > > > Sincerly, > > Joy E. Speelman > > > > Oh well. Obviously, I am disregarding that request, as I don't have any legal obligation do so. Joy, at least get your facts straight. 1) I have not posted anything to my immediate knowledge about you in csh.noise, nor do i plan to. 1.5) It's csh.flame. it's not mean to be taken seriously, just like you aren't. 2) It can't be called harassment in a legal sense anyway, as you have to take a *proactive* act to be offended. You don't have to read .flame. If your smart enough, you can use a killfile on me. Ask kurt. I'm sure he'd be more than happy to help you. ( I mean, he is more or less your slave) Or you can just skip my posts, since you probably know that i might post about you. Oooh, here's a thought- UNSUBSCRIBE! Yeah, i know it's a lot of work- you have to press 'u' if you're using trn and then press 'y'. (Whew! That was hard, wasn't it? Time for a gatorade break! ) I don't mailbomb you with e-mail death threats- maybe you're mistaking me with Aaron. I don't want to do *anything* of that sort and i'm not going to now. I really don't hate you, seriously. That's just dedicating too much of my time to you. As someone who has dealt with press censorship, censoring says a lot about the censors- they're scared of the suppressed information, plain and simple. The same goes for you, joy. You're so insecure that you have to quash my posts, which are in an area *designated* to be harsh, facetious commentary. (Judd & Bits translation: Joy, you're so insecure that you can't take a simple joke, albeit a stinging one.) I'm not going to be your whipping boy for all of your damn faults. That's ("I'm a whipped eval director") Kurt's job. And I don't take threats lightly. Unlike some people this floor, I'm not going to kowtow to your tyranny and follow everything you say. Go ahead- start a petition to ban me from .flame. I can dig it. My .flame fans will check out the unofficial chip .flame site for links *outside* of rit. (check my ,plan for details.) And speaking about people's .plans, let's look at yours.. --- excerpt of joy's .plan as of 11/10/95 To everyone who said i couldn't or not yet: I DID!!! HAH! -- end .plan and hey, how 'bout your login prompt.... -- joy's prompt as of 11/10/95 set prompt = "HaHa, I'm a member... " -- end prompt. i really don't need to say *anything* at this point. The .plan & .cshrc speak for themselves. Haha, you're a member now, but for how *long*? Like Tad said, you don't deserve to live here. No doubt you've done a lot for the house, but at the same time, you've done your damndest to spilt it apart for your self-serving goals. Such as repetitively petitioning to impeach exec board just because some of your frosh friends didn't get in, and then having the gall to circulate another petition right before the gen. house meeting. The childish tone of your .cshrc & .plan clearly show that you view csh as just another toy you've acquired. You'll dispose of it when you become bored and the well runs dry. Just like you jump from boyfriend to boyfriend when he stalls and the "engagement" plans fizzle out. (What is this, engagement #3, now? ) That's all your letter is. A sick, ugly transparent threat. So was your threat to take Jayson down as house manager on charges of statutory rape as a means to buy some time before you got turned into res life. Kurt didn't do anything noble by purportedly turning himself in. Jayson was literally steps away from the RD's door in doing it anyway. It's too bad you're too narcississtic to realize that he's one of the best house manager's we've had yet- we even won the cleanest floor award in NRH (which is *truly* a sign of the apocalypse!). Supposedly you had "papers" from the girl. Great. You were willing to smear lies about a house member, possibly ruin his reputation *permanently*, and make us get another house manager so that "I don't know what a closed e-board session means" Kurt could get revenge for being turned down for HM and you could be a happy squatter in csh. But it gets better! Rumor has it that you were planning to take *me* and Kace down too, since we are both res life employees who happen to be csh members. Don't even bother to try to confirm or deny it because it just disgusts me. You maniacal bitch. You stab and backstab everyone until you get your way. I'd find it pretty amusing if you even tried, seeing how my professional work has *nothing* to do with csh or better yet, the (horrid!) residence halls. Your desperate attempts to silence your critics with these false counter-claims is as amusing as it is pathetic. The hell with you. The *least* you could do is care about the people who you live with, who pay around $10,000 a year to live here while you've been doing it for free and illegally for the past three years. Ronald Reagan got it all wrong- If there's an quintessential "Welfare Queen," it's you, joy. All you. Your rumor alone is far more damaging to Jay than all of my posts about you combined. You want to talk about harrassment? Take a damn good look in the mirror. You really do want to be here at all costs, even if there isn't a house left to go to after all of your bitching,moaning, and scheming. Hell, your path to house membership is as shady as Bill Clinton's draft record. 3) Kurt, do us a favor. Act like a competent Evals director for *once* and excuse yourself from the floor on your girlfriend's vote. I know being impartial is very unbecoming of you, but at least try. I know that risking the chance that your first girlfriend since kindergarten will get dissed *hardcore* by your peers is a frightening thought for you. Deal with it. You were elected by the house as eval director, not as joy's evaluations advocate. Some people are actually scared that you might sit on them if you vote against joy. (Obviously i'm not.) Your beady eyes glaring at me and your jedi mind tricks wont work on me. Unfortunately, some people succumb to the fear that your *belly-of-doom* exudes. If there was anyone who deserved impeachment, it was you. You lacked the one inch spine necessary to just say "this is how were doing evals- objectively, as the constitution dictates," and that was it. Instead, we have to revote due to your incompetetence. Way to go, Kurt! 4) Joy, you aren't even worth a good taco bell run. How much did you sell for at the auction this year? $7, maybe? sheesh. 5) Here's something i found from fortune(1): "Whales who live in fishbowls shoudn't spit stones." You, Joy, of all fish, should know this cardinal rule. Unfortunately, you broke it. And you *will* face the consequences. -------- -chip "I'm a Joy-Killer, Better her than me. Joy-Killer, Fuck fishbowl brutality! Joy-Killer, I know Kurt-baby's grieveing...fuck him! Joy-Killer, 'Cuz at evals we get...even." -- Bodycount -- (Warning: *all* mail sent to me regarding .flame issues WILL be replied to in csh.flame. )