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LEVVAX::CAS9353 "The Revealing Science of God."      15 lines  19-AUG-1993 12:57
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	 As a member of HEARING_IMPARED notes, I have come across a
    discussion concerning NOTES readage by deaf and hard of hearing
    students.

	 It seems some people are afraid to enter any other conference
    besides HI because of a fear they will be treated differently because
    of their disability. I feel we should do something to make them more
    welcome to other conferences, and I feel this topic will help bridge
    the gap between hearing amd deaf students on this campus.

	 Post any ideas or questions concerning the deaf community here at
    RIT.

						Sherm            
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LEVVAX::JBG2941                                      12 lines  19-AUG-1993 13:03
		   -< Just my own two cents if you please. >-
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    Hi! I guess I'll go first.
    
    I'm hard of hearing (as many of you guys know) and I've found that
    since I've joined other "notes topics" (as I call them) I've met a few
    hearing people that I normally won't have met.  I haven't been treated
    any differently, just been treated like a human being.  I don't see how
    other deaf people can be afraid of joining in on another note just
    because of their disability.  The way I look at it is that there are
    sooooo many people who read these notes that they aren't goingto care
    one way or the other about what you are just as long as your friendly.
    
    :) Jenn
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LEVVAX::TAK0430 "Semper Fidelis"                      8 lines  19-AUG-1993 21:26
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    wait tilll Ewokie comes back... I wouldn't be surprised if she add a
    great volume of reply in this topic!!
    
						indy
    
    P.S. Yes I am deaf too.. :)
    
    
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LEVVAX::BXG5360 "O' Captain! my Captain!"             6 lines  20-AUG-1993 01:23
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    How do you all feel about the common phrase "Deaf Is Dumb"
    
    and why don't you guys reply in my own confernce? :)
    "Add entry Hearing_Impaired" heh heh
    
    -Skip
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LEVVAX::JBG2941 "Everbody lies about SEX!"            4 lines  20-AUG-1993 08:53
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    To Late, I'm already a member!  As for the saying... I hate it! 
    Stereotyping at it's worst!
    
    :) Jenn
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LEVVAX::CJW3890 "Un homme's amusement est un autre h" 7 lines  23-AUG-1993 11:20
		-< Deaf are dumb, and all blind people can fly >-
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    I've only met one person who is deaf that I have had trouble not seeing
    as dumb, and I think its because he/she is dumb too, not due to
    deafness.  
    
    Butch is right, stereotyping sux.
    
						      Tas
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LEVVAX::ABL4290 "The one, the Prime."                32 lines  25-AUG-1993 15:38
	-< I'm Hearing Impaired today... my left ear is clogged w/ wax >-
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    A topic like this one is a good step in the right direction...
    
	The best way to combat Stereotyping and Prejudices is to
    slowly fade out all the fuss we put on our differences.  Instead of
    having Hearing Conferences and Non Hearing Conferences, we can evolve
    into Conferences.  Being Deaf or Hearing Impaired or Hearing becomes
    just another trait... like brown hair or red hair.  With no real
    stigmas attatched.
	This topic can serve as a kind of "bridge", if you will, between
    two "different" worlds.  This topic marks the Common Ground.  In time,
    I feel, most people will outgrow the need for this Distinction between
    Hearing and Non and Impaired... when that time comes, this topic will
    have served its purpose... And so better it will be for us all.
	I believe that people can be allowed, even encouraged to be 
    different and unique from others... but to over-emphasize our 
    differences is to invite stereotyping.  
	Resist the temptation to think of Hearing and Hearing Impaired
    as separate species.  Resist isolating yourself to "your own kind."
    We are all one kind... HumanKind.  Draw strength from those to whom
    you can relate, but do not isolate yourself from everyone else 
    because of it.  There is a fine distinction between Racial Pride
    and Xenophobism.  (Not that I suggest it is a matter of race, but
    these words seem to be the closest I can find).
	May this topic serve as a vehicle for understanding... and for 
    this forementioned pride.  But please, do not let it become a 
    "bubble" where we try to shove all our NTID people... for that was
    not the intention of this topic.
	LEV is unity.  May this topic serve to further strengthen those
    bonds that exist between us.
    
						Sol
    
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LEVVAX::JBG2941 "Everbody lies about SEX!"            5 lines  25-AUG-1993 15:49
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    Well said!  
    
    I too believe that the stereotyping has got to stop! 
    
    :) J
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LEVVAX::EJC7658 "Bite me! It's fun!"                  9 lines  30-AUG-1993 13:42
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    I think this one fits into the topic....
    
    Does that Mtv commercial about sound tick anyone else off.... the one
    with the line "Beware the man not moved by sound."  That REALLY gets me
    .... peeved.  
    
    Just my $0.02.... Stereotyping Sucks.
    
    Liz
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LEVVAX::AXP4796 "The Ewok from the Bronx"            18 lines   1-SEP-1993 17:11
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	I was born hearing, became hard of hearing, became Deaf.  For th
    ose of you that are wondering, yes, I am legally Deaf.  I don't
    think I ever really worried about whether or not people would treat me
    differently, but then again, I have a gift.  I can
    live in both worlds.  Not too many people can do that.  I also think
    who I am and where I come from helps.  I've always been outgoing and
    talkative.  Also, I never tell people I am Deaf until I have known them
    for a while (and unless you see my hearing aids, I'm told it's kind of hard
    to tell).  By the time I mention it, the other person already likes me
    for me.  The only time I have had a problem with being Deaf is at home,
    when people see my hearing aids (when I wear pony tails), think I'm an easy
     target, and jump me. Thats when I show them that being Deaf doesn't mean 
    you are dumb, or weak.  
    
    
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LEVVAX::AXP4796 "The Ewok from the Bronx"            12 lines   1-SEP-1993 17:14
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    Whoops...I got cut off.  I think that so far, the vax has been doing a
    great job because it doesn't rely on hearing or deafness.  It relys on
    socialism.  Therefore, once we make friends on the vax, it doesn't
    matter whether or not they are hearing or Deaf, the way real life
    should be but often isn't.  Perhaps we can motivate more Deaf
    individuals to take part in the vax conferences, and help Skippy over
    in Hearing Impaired notes, help him encourage more hearing impaired and
    Deaf people to join other conferences.  You'd be surprised at how many
    of them are already doing that.
    
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LEVVAX::BXG5360 "O' Captain! my Captain!"             3 lines   1-SEP-1993 17:22
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    thanks Aileen! :)
    
    -skip
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LEVVAX::EJC7658 "Bite me! It's fun!"                 11 lines   1-SEP-1993 20:01
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    i have a favor to ask of all my sign-speaking friends...
    
    I am the only hearing person in my suite, and my sign is VERY rusty (as
    in, I barely remember anything!)  Any assistance in teaching me would
    be GREATLY appreciated!!! (I'd take a class but I have NO schedule
    time)
    
    Thanks.
    
    Liz
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Note 31.13                     The Deaf Community                       13 of 82
LEVVAX::AXP4796 "The Ewok from the Bronx"             9 lines   2-SEP-1993 10:45
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    I'll help ya learn Liz, if ya want.  We can start off with some
    profanity and then gradually continue with statements like..."That guy
    is a nice piece of meat"  :)
    
    
    Ewokie
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LEVVAX::JED5264 "Look Mommy! It's the UPS man!!"      5 lines   2-SEP-1993 11:12
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    Yeah, and I'll try to explain what that fat guy in the evening gown,
    fishnet stockings, and pink feather boa just said to you.... :)
    
    J
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LEVVAX::CJW3890 "Run Brother! Run!"                  26 lines   2-SEP-1993 11:19
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    Ok, I've been thinking bout that MTV commercial, I think Liz is wrong.  
    
    The commercial isn't saying "beware the people who can't hear sounds'
    it says 'beware the people not moved by sound', and yes, there is a
    difference.
    
    A person who is moved by sound is one who gets caught up in the emotion,
    the feelings associated with the music.  These are yer everyday people
    who when they hear fast paced music get excited, or slow deep music
    associate depression or closeness.  Music in horror films, designed to 
    heighten the suspense is another example.  
    
    A person not moved by sound, as the commercial intends, is an
    unemotional cold hearted bastard uncapable of feeling.  I agree, Beware
    him.
    
    But by saying that singles out the deaf communtiy and says beware them,
    no.  Most 'deaf' students I've met hard of hearing, and they can hear
    sounds and they get moved by them too.  I haven't met a completely deaf
    person.  And even them, with no concept of sound, aren't necessarily
    singled out, because they know and recognize the feelings but in a
    different way.  Facial expression, body language etc.
    
    Just my .02
    
						       Tas
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LEVVAX::AXP4796 "The Ewok from the Bronx"             7 lines   2-SEP-1993 11:20
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    yeah...like sonic booms.  I really get moved by those kind of sounds.
    
    
    Ewokie
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LEVVAX::EJC7658 "Bite me! It's fun!"                  6 lines   2-SEP-1993 13:48
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    Thanks, Ewokie!  I remember how to say "I want you!" though!
    
    
    Liz
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LEVVAX::AXP4796 "The Ewok from the Bronx"             5 lines   2-SEP-1993 13:55
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    Just flutter your eyelashes.
    
    Ewokie
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LEVVAX::JDD9642 "onothimagan"                         3 lines   2-SEP-1993 21:43
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    Or wag that furry tail furiously...
    
    JD
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LEVVAX::EMW2148                                      17 lines   6-SEP-1993 19:06
			    -< I'm deaf and proud! >-
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    Why are you afraid to let people who you have just met think you are
    deaf?  I myself am profoundly deaf, with 115+ loss in each ear. 
    However,  miraculously can hear with my hearing aid and speak very
    well.  (thanks, mom and dad, for starting me with a hearing aid at six
    weeks old!)
    
    Well, anyway, people don't know I'm deaf until either I tell them or
    they see my hearing aid...which is often...I'm not ashamed of it.  This
    is my first time in a deaf school, as I was always living in the
    hearing world....this is all new to me...but I like it anyways and plan
    on functioning well in both of them.  
    
    In conclusion, don't hide your deafness.  If the person doesn't like
    you cause of hte deafness, that's his loss.
    
						BloOdShEd
    
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LEVVAX::ABL4290 "The one, the Prime."                 4 lines   6-SEP-1993 19:08
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    Excellent point...
    
							Sol
    
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LEVVAX::JED5264 "Look Mommy! It's the UPS man!!"     24 lines   6-SEP-1993 20:48
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    yeah, I agree too.
    
    but life doesn't always conform to logic.   Morally, everyone (well,
    most people) know that it's not right to judge people by appearances,
    but people do anyway.   I've had people dead set against me just
    because I couldn't hear, and they didn't even know me.  I had teachers
    in high school who made it very clear to me, in front of the whole
    class, me never having said a word, that they would under no
    circumstances go out of their way for me.  It sucks going through your
    school years with your name in bright red in the gradebooks. I can see
    how it would be helpful, but it also brings up the issue, and sometimes
    that forces the teacher (and often the other students) to single you
    out.  No one likes that, and other people were intimidated by me
    because of that.
    
    But I have found that if no big deal is made of it, I can relax, (and I
    do better at everything when I'm relaxed and not so paranoid), and
    people will see me for who I really am.
    
    I'm not  yelling at anyone or trying to say this is the only way, and
    I'm not embarrassed anymore.  Just telling it as I see it 
    
    J
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LEVVAX::AXP4796 "The Ewok from the Bronx"            26 lines   7-SEP-1993 12:00
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    I agree with Jenn.
     
    
    I like the person who posted two posts back (sorry forgot your name). 
    I can hear sounds, somewhat distorted but nevertheless can hear 'em,
    and I can talk as clear as they come.  I, too am profoundly Deaf in
    both ears without my hearing aids.  I'd like to say that being Deaf,
    especially in work situations or club situations, where the individuals
    are predominantly hearing, doesn't matter but it does.  I feel like I
    have to first, prove myself, then I can tell them.  Like in high
    school.  I never told my teachers I was Deaf and used to sit in the
    back of the class, understand everything that was going on, and ace the
    class.  When the teacher's finally learned I was Deaf, they treated me
    no differently.  However, when I went to one class and told the teacher
    straight out that I was Deaf, she places me in the front middle of the
    room, making exaggerated motions with her lips when she talks, and
    constantly stopping class to ask me if I was getting all of it. 
    Basically treating me like a retard.  Therefore, in some situations, I
    don't tell anyone.  Not only is it not their business, they don't have
    to know.
    
    Ewokie
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LEVVAX::JDD9642 "onothimagan"                         9 lines   7-SEP-1993 13:26
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	It's wierd, but none of you guys sounds deaf when you post.
    
    hmmm....
    
    WOULD   IT   HELP   IF   I   TALK   LOUD   AND   SLOW   LIKE   THIS   ?
    
    relax... I'm kidding:)
    
    jd
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LEVVAX::AXP4796 "The Ewok from the Bronx"             9 lines   7-SEP-1993 13:39
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    Smacking my head....
    
    "DOH!"
    
    
    
    Ewokie :)
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LEVVAX::JDD9642 "onothimagan"                         3 lines   7-SEP-1993 14:24
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    ouch!
    yer crewel - I like that in a furry animal.
    jd
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LEVVAX::EMW2148                                      12 lines   8-SEP-1993 22:51
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    This is for Ewokie..I think you were referring to me...anyway, I am
    profoundly deaf, and liek you, am blessed with a good voice.  While the
    teachers may mouth a little mroe, I'm always honest with them and tell
    them, or at least that was in high school.  Now, I haven't told anyone
    yet but if I have a problem, I will.  If someone acts differenlty just
    because you are deaf, just tell them to stop nicely, or explain to them
    what they are doing.  I find that this method works effectively.  As
    for proving yourself, why?  The only person who you have to prove
    yourslef to is yourself.
    
						BloOdShEd
    
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LEVVAX::AXP4796 "The Ewok from the Bronx"            11 lines   9-SEP-1993 13:38
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    True...and so far, I haven't felt any need to tell anyone that I was
    Deaf.  I find that the teachers here aren't as bad as the ones in high
    school, mostly because those here are more aware of Deafness.  However,
    sometimes telling them nicely to stop exaggerating their lips
    while they talk doesn't work.  In which case, I feel like bashing their
    heads in.  To avoid such aggravation, I just don't bother.
    
    
    Ewokie
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LEVVAX::JED5264 "Q-Tips are better than sex"         16 lines   9-SEP-1993 14:28
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    yep.
    
    
    Besides, I'm trying not to make a big deal out of it.. .all my life my
    parents and my grandmother felt the uncontrollable urge to tell every
    @$ 2@$%^T^   $#%@%^ @#$% living soul that I couldn't hear... and what
    really j$^%#$^ me off was that they TRIED to say it discreetly, or
    covered their mouths while they said it, and they never knew that I
    could hear them anyway, or at least knew that they were talking about 
    me.  It's not a big deal...
    
    I've also learned since becoming deaf, that a lot of what people say is
    bullshit, and you can live without most of it....
    
    J
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LEVVAX::EMW2148                                       7 lines   9-SEP-1993 14:41
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    I believe bashing their head in would make things worse as their lips
    would be even harder to read, with their head smashed right over it.
    
    Just a thought.
    
							BloOdShEd
    
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LEVVAX::MLK2287 "Yeah, it's against my religion!"     7 lines   9-SEP-1993 14:49
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    Huh?
    
    MOe ?:/
    
    
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LEVVAX::TLR8799 "The Joker"                          11 lines   9-SEP-1993 15:49
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    As Ewokie knows, I hate revealing my true identity.  So, I am a
    profoundly deaf person who doesn't even use hearing aids (they don't
    help me at all.)  Sometimes I really mingle among the crowd and nobody
    would know that I am deaf until somebody singles me out for
    conversation.  This will sound cruel or uncaring, but I used to try to
    avoid stereotyping by attempting to "look normal" whenever I go out in
    the public.  However, since I came to RIT, I have learned to embrace my
    deafness and I no longer have any need to try to go around acting like
    any hearing person.  I am a deaf person and I will remain a deaf
    person.
	   The Joker
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LEVVAX::AXP4796 "The Ewok from the Bronx"            12 lines  10-SEP-1993 10:51
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    That's what's hard for me...I was born hearing and for a good many many
    years, I was hard of hearing, and could hear without my hearing aids. 
    Suddenly, I'm profoundly Deaf and it's like..."Whoa...wait a minute...I
    remember what it's like to hear...blah blah blah".  What world do I
    live in now?  How am I supposed to act?  Frankly, I just don't care
    anymore.  I act like me, and telling someone I'm Deaf is something I do
    when feel the need.
    
    
    Ewokie
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LEVVAX::EMW2148                                       5 lines  10-SEP-1993 15:50
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    For me, it's easy.  I was born profoundly deaf, and am profoundly deaf. 
    What am I when people ask?  I'm ProFounDly DeAf.
    
						BloOdShEd
    
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LEVVAX::AXP4796 "The Ewok from the Bronx"             7 lines  10-SEP-1993 19:35
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    Good for you.
    
    
    Ewokie
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LEVVAX::JED5264 "Q-Tips are better than sex"          8 lines  10-SEP-1993 21:30
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    no offense.. just curious, but why the random caps?
    
    
    
    (bloodshed... I won't ruin it by trying to remember them all :)  )
    
    J
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LEVVAX::EMW2148                                      10 lines  11-SEP-1993 11:48
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    O.K.....it's not too hard to remember which caps...BloOdShEd...first
    one, two after that, and every other letter.  Why you ask, it's like
    that?  Cause, when I was on all my NYC BBSes, that was the way people
    did their handles...as a matter of fact, all the top people typed like
    this:
    
    WeLl, whY do I uSE seMi CaPs?  SimPlY BecaUsE it's SO KeWL!
    
						BloOdShEd
    
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Note 31.39                     The Deaf Community                       39 of 82
LEVVAX::JDD9642 "onothimagan"                        11 lines  11-SEP-1993 12:27
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	And just what exactly is it that makes one a 'top people' ? I don't
    like the arrogant sound of that enough to already know I wouldn't want
    to be one, or meet one. Let's remember that we're all supposed to be
    the same height around here. With the possible exception of Mods, who
    occasionally are required to wear lifts to keep the rest of us in
    order.
	Type how you like, but however you spell it, cool is a relative
    term. For myself, I'm much too lazy to be able to remember which
    letter's supposed to be caps. a simple jd will do fine...
    
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LEVVAX::JXM6259 "I hear cries tonight"                9 lines  11-SEP-1993 14:22
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	Yeah, I agree with jd.  Wether or not you're someone big on a
    public BBS is your problem.  No one is better than anyone else here. 
    Personal differences aside, not one person can honestly say "I'm cooler
    than you", "I'm a better person than you", or "I have better smelling
    toe chesse than you" because they're all relative.
    
	Type as you will, but out of originality, not out of arrogance.
    
    fnord
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LEVVAX::ABL4290 "The one, the Prime."                 6 lines  12-SEP-1993 10:13
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	We are all equal here, yes.  That is an important lesson of LEV. 
    But do not worry, my friends... I do not think BLoOdsHEd means to be
    arrogant... only to offer the origins of his handle...
    
							Sol
    
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LEVVAX::EMW2148                                      12 lines  12-SEP-1993 11:05
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    Thanks for the defendment, Sol.  To all:  I am not bragging (even
    though I was on all of hte top ones :):)  )  I was telling ya guys why
    I ws capitalizing handle like that.  If I was braggin, you would
    know...  
    
    Oh, btw, can anyone here tell me how to make the person push enter to
    read more of the note, not when the page is full, but because the user
    purposely makes the reader push enter,ike in those jokes, when you need
    to push enter to see the answer?
    
						BloOdShEd
    
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LEVVAX::CJW3890 "Run Brother! Run!"                   6 lines  12-SEP-1993 19:07
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    If you use it often, you risk deletion.  You have been warned.
			 
						  Sherm
     (well, he would have said it if he was here.)
    
						  Tas
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LEVVAX::CAS9140 "coed naked vax"                      4 lines  14-SEP-1993 18:36
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	it is alright, I warned him when I told him how to do it.  however,
    I take no responsibility for what he does.  the little turd already
    nailed me with multiple form-feeds in a mail message.
							Pook
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Note 31.46                     The Deaf Community                       46 of 82
LEVVAX::MSA7064 "The light bringer"                  11 lines  17-SEP-1993 13:37
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    I'm glad I don't skip anymore, because if I did, I would be very
    confused readind about little turds in the DEAF COMMUNITY section.
    
    It feels so good being able to comunicate with everyone at RIT, now. 
    It may be different in conversations, but here, in Vaxlandia, where it
    matters, I can communicate with all who want to.
    
    I am not deaf, do not know sign language (yet), but I don't feel left
    out anymore.
    
    --Scedeau
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LEVVAX::AXP4796 "The Ewok from the Bronx"             6 lines  17-SEP-1993 14:37
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    Glad to hear it!  But who's a turd?
    
    
    Ewokie
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LEVVAX::GKB3790 "Taszilla vs. King Kong"              3 lines  17-SEP-1993 14:45
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	Uh.. he did say little turd.  Figure it out.  :)
    
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LEVVAX::AXP4796 "The Ewok from the Bronx"             9 lines  17-SEP-1993 15:50
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    *doing unseen gestures with her hand*
    
    ...to you too Cav.
    
    
    Ewokie
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LEVVAX::GAK4178                                      13 lines  18-SEP-1993 23:21
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    Here I am posting in a sub where I'm not deaf and it says "The Deaf
    Community"..so sue me!  ;>
    
    Anywayz, I never experienced being around people are deaf until I
    visited here (back in spring to see the campus).  I think it's great to
    experience this!  Now that I am living everyday with the hearing
    impaired, and talking to them, it gets me used to it, so I don't feel
    uneasy at all.  I feel uneasy about a lot of things, but I am glad that
    this is helping me overcome that feeling with anything of the nature. 
    
    Anyone wanna teach me sign language?
    
    BA
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Note 31.51                     The Deaf Community                       51 of 82
LEVVAX::MSA7064 "The light bringer"                   6 lines  19-SEP-1993 16:34
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    I will
    
    as soon as someone teaches me
    
    -- Sceadeau
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Note 31.52                     The Deaf Community                       52 of 82
LEVVAX::TPW4968 "TWINK!"                              3 lines  19-SEP-1993 22:10
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    If you teach me, I'll teach you.
    
			TWINK!
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Note 31.53                     The Deaf Community                       53 of 82
LEVVAX::GAK4178                                       4 lines  20-SEP-1993 00:07
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    Ok, it's a done deal TWINK!  I'll teach you, then you teach me! We'll
    learn a lot!  Anyone want to supervise?
    
    Black Amethyst
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Note 31.54                     The Deaf Community                       54 of 82
LEVVAX::EMW2148                                       5 lines  20-SEP-1993 01:55
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    RE:.44   the little turd?  OUWCH!
    
						BloOdShEd
    SO(I get emotonal easily when bonkers)
    
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Note 31.55                     The Deaf Community                       55 of 82
LEVVAX::AXP4796 "Go Away!"                            9 lines  20-SEP-1993 13:14
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    I think I should start teaching a class.
    
    
    For those interested, e-mail me :)
    
    
    Ewokie
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Note 31.56                     The Deaf Community                       56 of 82
LEVVAX::MSA7064 "It's time for a GAK attack"          6 lines  20-SEP-1993 13:23
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    I don't want to learn how to say "The guy is some peice of meat.",
    Ewokie
    
    -- Sceadeau
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Note 31.57                     The Deaf Community                       57 of 82
LEVVAX::AXP4796 "Get away from me Creep!"             6 lines  20-SEP-1993 13:28
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    How about..."Kick me...I'm brainless :)"
    
    
    Ewokie
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Note 31.58                     The Deaf Community                       58 of 82
LEVVAX::MSA7064 "It's time for a GAK attack"          6 lines  20-SEP-1993 13:43
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    Naw.  All I need to know is, "Do you have a boyfriend?  Want one?" :)
    Just kiddin.
    
    -- Sceadeau
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Note 31.59                     The Deaf Community                       59 of 82
LEVVAX::JDD9642 "The Dali Llama"                      4 lines  20-SEP-1993 13:49
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    Or how 'bout "Are all deaf girls as beautiful as you?"
	that's tastful!
	-jd :)
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Note 31.60                     The Deaf Community                       60 of 82
LEVVAX::AXP4796 "Get away from me Creep!"            13 lines  20-SEP-1993 13:50
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    :)
    
    
    Or I can teach you all how to say...
    
    "DUH!"
    
    
    Ewokie  :)
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Note 31.61                     The Deaf Community                       61 of 82
LEVVAX::JDD9642 "The Dali Llama"                      6 lines  20-SEP-1993 13:54
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	Or maybe 
	"Hi I'm a real dork and I have no idea what I'm saying. Just point
    at me and start laughing real hard."
    
	jd
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Note 31.62                     The Deaf Community                       62 of 82
LEVVAX::AXP4796 "Get away from me Creep!"            13 lines  20-SEP-1993 14:14
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    Hhahahhaa...
    
    
    is that what you learned first?
    
    
    Or to say...."My name is _______ and I suck in bed."
    
    
    Ewokie
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Note 31.63                     The Deaf Community                       63 of 82
LEVVAX::AXP4796 "Get away from me Creep!"             5 lines  20-SEP-1993 14:14
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    Or how about just the ABC's?
    
    Ewokie
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Note 31.64                     The Deaf Community                       64 of 82
LEVVAX::EMW2148                                       4 lines  20-SEP-1993 14:29
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    Or maybe you can teach us all how to be an Ewok?
    
						BloOdShEd
    
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Note 31.65                     The Deaf Community                       65 of 82
LEVVAX::AXP4796 "Get away from me Creep!"            14 lines  20-SEP-1993 14:38
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    That, my lad, is a gift.  You have to be born with it (or 5'1 and
    under).
    
    
    Seriously though, there seems to be a lot of interest on your part to
    learn how to sign, so if I can arrange it, I would be happy to give
    lessons to all of you at one time (shutup).  When I walk into class you
    can all stand up and say..."We Love you Miss Pagan..."
    
    
    Ewokie
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Note 31.66                     The Deaf Community                       66 of 82
LEVVAX::GAK4178                                       4 lines  20-SEP-1993 17:25
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    Come on....you can put bricks on our heads and put us on diets.  Then
    we can learn to walk, talk, eat, sleep, and dance like you.
    
    GAK
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Note 31.67                     The Deaf Community                       67 of 82
LEVVAX::JGM7683 "TLD=~"                               3 lines  20-SEP-1993 21:02
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    Yeah; it'd be cool to be an Ewok.
    
							~
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Note 31.68                     The Deaf Community                       68 of 82
LEVVAX::GAK4178                                       4 lines  20-SEP-1993 22:50
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    Oh well, there's one and I guess that's enough cuz we can't have any
    more... :(
    
    GAK
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Note 31.69                     The Deaf Community                       69 of 82
LEVVAX::CAS9353 "Spiritual Oneness is masturbation." 13 lines  21-SEP-1993 15:23
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>                  <<< Note 31.67 by LEVVAX::JGM7683 "TLD=~" >>>
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>    Yeah; it'd be cool to be an Ewok.
>    
>
>                                                       ~
>

	 I think I'm going to be ill.

			
					    Sherm

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Note 31.70                     The Deaf Community                       70 of 82
LEVVAX::AXP4796 "Cree...Cree...What about me?"       11 lines  21-SEP-1993 15:33
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    :p
    
    
    It doesn't seem as if though anyone is really interested in the Deaf
    Community.  Those that are can go into Skippy's conference (he is the
    moderator) Hearing_Impaired Notes.
    
    
    Ewokie
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Note 31.71                     The Deaf Community                       71 of 82
LEVVAX::VPM0500 "DarkShadow"                         15 lines  27-SEP-1993 13:55
			-< A new member...DarkShadow! >-
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    Here is one more participant for this topic, me, although I am
    reluctant to give away details of my secret identity.  The Joker knows
    me.  I am profoundly deaf by birth and got my first hearing aid by the
    age of four.  I still have problems in understanding even my parents.
    "Wha...? Oh you mean I have to take out the garbage? Or to vacuum the
    carpet?"  GArbage or carpet...they looks same in lip reading.  The aids
    are not a big help.  
    Then I came in RIT.  It feels like a complete metamorphing of me.  I
    wonder if my parents will know me as the old same boy who cannot
    understand (garbage/carpet) when I go back for the Thanksgiving break. 
    Anyway, this is a good topic.  Keep it up as long as I am here.  I will
    be around for five years!
    
    :)
    -Darky
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Note 31.72                     The Deaf Community                       72 of 82
LEVVAX::DSF5454                                       4 lines   2-OCT-1993 17:32
	 -< things that makes you burp in the middle of the night. :) >-
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    I noted one thing...The Joker and his secret identity was fun, but when
    people who knows the Joker start having a secret identities of their
    own, doesn't it get a little old after a while?
    
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Note 31.73                     The Deaf Community                       73 of 82
LEVVAX::TLR8799 "Whaddya mean, Doc? I'm not insane?"  6 lines   3-OCT-1993 12:26
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    Yes, it does and it is my trademark.  Leave my trademark alone and
    stick to the topic!  For those who haven't figured me out yet, here's a
    simple question - Am I deaf?  (This question is for those WHO don't
    know what I look like yet!)
    
				The Joker
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Note 31.74                     The Deaf Community                       74 of 82
LEVVAX::JGM7683                                       3 lines   3-OCT-1993 14:41
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    I would say yes, after our encounter on the stairwell under Gracie's.
    
								~
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Note 31.75                     The Deaf Community                       75 of 82
LEVVAX::LEW6871                                       5 lines   4-OCT-1993 02:20
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    If ya'll want to know who is Joker.....you can ask me question about
    him....I know everything about him!  (You will have to pay!!)
    
    -Mystery Girl
    
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Note 31.76                     The Deaf Community                       76 of 82
LEVVAX::DSF5454                                       8 lines   4-OCT-1993 07:51
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    Hmm...'after our encounter'..hmm...the connotations of that mere
    simple, innocuous-sounding phrase! :) kidding... Ok, Joker! Let me
    guess. I'd say..."YER NOT DEAF!". I got to be either right or wrong.
    Let statistics, a flip of a coin, and luck decide for me, eh? 
    
    --SuperMysteriousGuy...NOT! 
    --Just plain ol' Dan
    
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Note 31.77                     The Deaf Community                       77 of 82
LEVVAX::TLR8799 "Whaddya mean, Doc? I'm not insane?"  8 lines   4-OCT-1993 12:59
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    In re of .74, we never talked face to face.  Sorry, ~....I will not
    deny my identity if I am caught, ok?  Keep on trying, ~.  In re of .76,
    Danny, you're right about me being 50/50 chance of being deaf or not. 
    As for the Mystery Girl, yes, it's true - she will betray me for a
    price!  ~, if you really, REALLY, want to find out bad, pay the Mystery
    Girl!
    
	The Joker
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Note 31.78                     The Deaf Community                       78 of 82
LEVVAX::MSA7064 "Sceadeau and Suga-Tush"              5 lines   4-OCT-1993 13:19
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    I know, Joker, but who am I to tell.  You have already stated it
    before, but, alas, some people don't read all the notes.......
    
    -- Sceadeau
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Note 31.79                     The Deaf Community                       79 of 82
LEVVAX::TLR8799 "Whaddya mean, Doc? I'm not insane?"  4 lines   4-OCT-1993 13:22
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    I know!  I want all to read all of the notes!  I like to leave clues
    all over Lev Society and people continue to miss them!  Sheesh!
    
    The Joker
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Note 31.80                     The Deaf Community                       80 of 82
LEVVAX::MSA7064 "Sceadeau and Suga-Tush"              6 lines   4-OCT-1993 13:23
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    The nerve of some people...
    
    sheesh?
    
    Sceadeau
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Note 31.81                     The Deaf Community                       81 of 82
LEVVAX::GKB3790 "Why am I here?"                      7 lines   4-OCT-1993 21:31
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	Maybe some people don't want to find you.  What if you just lure
    them in with your clues, then when they find you, you whack them on the
    head and steal their wallet.
    
	--Cav
    
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Note 31.82                     The Deaf Community                       82 of 82
LEVVAX::TLR8799 "Whaddya mean, Doc? I'm not insane?"  4 lines   8-OCT-1993 14:43
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    Good idea!  Thanks for the encouragement!  We are alike physically so
    it's no problem for me!
    
			    The Joker